bill: a revealing interview you had with congressman royce last evening. martha: when i remembered back president obama was picking secretary of state the first time around he was interested in the job. he was interested in the presidency as well nine years ago. this has to be a big day for him. he's been a senator for a longtime. this is a pretty big promotion. >> reporter: sure, and, you know, president obama said when he nominated senator kerry, and i think very accurately that senator kerry was essentially bread for this condition. his nats was a foreign service officer. he longed for this job for a longtime, and he didn't really make it secret that he really wanted to be secretary of state. and you see his wife next to him, theresa hines kerry. they have also signaled that this is a want, and he wanted to be chairman of the senate foreign relations committee because of his cant to b want to be involved in foreign affairs. this fits his personality, it's what he wants and it's expected that as long as he doesn't trip over himself in this hearing, and i